The funny thing is that in the Congreagation "Bible" Study, I've counted on average of 2 scriptures actually being read. But then, WT literature is the Bible for JWs so that probably is accurate. I don't expect them to drop it anytime soon, althought that may be the long term plan. It would have been tougher to just drop it cold turkey. This way is more like a phase out, which is easier to deal with.
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End of CO's and DO's? Pioneer Change Hours? Apostacy in Bethel/ Chicago? Thoughts on no more Bookstudy...
by cognac inend of co's and do's?.
honestly, if they get rid of them i think the whole borg will crumble.
nobody's cares about elders the way they do co's and do's.
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End of CO's and DO's? Pioneer Change Hours? Apostacy in Bethel/ Chicago? Thoughts on no more Bookstudy...
by cognac inend of co's and do's?.
honestly, if they get rid of them i think the whole borg will crumble.
nobody's cares about elders the way they do co's and do's.
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O how life changes after 5hr jc...thank simon for my jwd friends!!!!
by oompa inthank simon not god...started to say thank god....trying to avoid that like saying "in the truth"...."worldy"....those two are hard to break........but still.....giving up on what was a good marriage is a bitch....and i am not done yet....some of my now close jwd friends had mates that came out pretty fast.......some not.......i am of the not variety.
the one in thing one out is such a tightrope to walk and it takes a toll on both partners.
i think she would be so much happier without me...but she really loves me deeply.....unfortunately she also has the false hope her prayers will be answered and i will serve jah again........damm this is tough......thanks all...esp st. ann...i called you today, but no answer...did not leave message.
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oompa - what happened man? did you just go through a JC?
Sure hope things work out with your marriage.
Glad to see you feel a sense of relief.
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Forget all of the stages: Denial, Anger, Sadness - Don't you sometimes just feel STUPID for having believed in the Organization?
by BonaFide ini know i have been through all those stages, i denied it, then i got angry, definitely sad.
months and months of this, and i still am in for my family and friends.. but sometimes i just feel stupid.
why did i ignore basic common sense for so long?
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BF - Although I was raised in it, I feel very stupid for ever getting baptized and certainly for being so involved during my young adult life. I get very angry at myself and relive the times that I could have escaped but went back. The problem is that at the time, I truely believed. Maybe if the internet had been around then, I would have come to the conclusion that I'm at now.
I think over time it does get a little better. Like you, I still go for family but I've been able to move past the self loathing. I now look at the JW experience as a good learning experience. I will NEVER take anything at face value, especially from those who claim to have all the answers. I will ALWAYS assume that the motivation for most things is money and work backwards from that. I've seen the ugly side of judgmental and will not make sweeping generalizations of individuals that I do not know. My kids WILL get a good education not matter what anyone says.
Was I stupid for not fully investigating the religion I grew up in before making a committment similar to the committment one makes to a gang or the mob? Yes. But you can take 2 courses after a stupid decision: 1) Learn from it and not repeat it or 2) let it beat you in the ground. What's done is done. I'm trying to focus on what I can change - today and tomorrow.
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Do you have Phantom Vibration Syndrome (PVS)?
by Elsewhere inhi, my name is elsewhere and i have phantom vibration syndrome.. .
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-06-12-cellphones_n.htm?csp=34.
good vibrations?
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Y'all need to pray more, attend ALL the meetings and go our in service more and your PVS will fade away!!
Thought I would insert the standard WTS response to any problem!!!
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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inon may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.
he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.
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Barb,
I realize this is a little off topic but do you where Maximus went? I've read many of his old posts and they really helped me as I was waking up. He seemed like a good guy.
Also, thanks so much for sharing these personal experiences. Your balance is greatly appreciated. Had I been treated as you have, I probably wouldn't be as objective. I love reading your anecdotes and I echo sbf's request for a book!
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Who Will Be the Watchtower's New "Boss"?
by metatron inwhether thru incapacity or death, the days of jaracz's rule as unofficial "boss" of the watchtower are numbered.
who will emerge to take his place?
every body of elders i know has some guy who dominates the decisions made.
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I think it will be Losch. He will push to make the religion even more wacky.
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Can't believe I am doing this
by rockmehardplace ini am shocked i am even writing this.
for about a year or so, i have hid in the darkness peeking at this site and following everyone else's story.
i have learned more than i expected from so many.
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Rockmehardplace - welcome to the board! Wow, so many of the things you said I can totally relate to. As you can see, you are not alone. I've found this place to be a great outlet that keeps me sane when dealing with JW stuff.
Look forward to your comments.
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Circuit Overseers are under pressure to produce - My experience
by BonaFide inso we have all seen the yearbook or the wt with the yearly statistics.. when i became a c.o., at my first meeting with the other c.o.
's at the branch, i was handed a piece of paper with statistics on it for that past year, both of the circuit i was assigned to serve, and the total stats in the country.. here are the stats that the branch keeps track of:.
publishers, congregations, bible studies, baptized, memorial attendance, pioneers, aux pios, etc.
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And that's why so few COs really connect with the rank & file. Of the COs I've had during my tenure as an elder, I noticed that the ones liked best by the rank & file (and the elders) were the ones that were not overly concerned with the numbers.
Thanks BF & WC. I had no idea that they were tracking contributions on a circuit level and then basically making the COs accountable for poor contributions. I'm not suprised at all but I think the average JW would be taken aback if they knew it.
The COs are nothing more than middle management of a book publishing/distribution company. Now I understand a little better why they are in such a bad mood during those meetings with the BOE.
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If JW's went the way of the WCG
by startingover ini had a discussion with my loyal jw wife about what she would do if the jw's did an about fact like the worldwide church of god.
i found this blog after our discussion and i really thought the comments were expressed very well and described exactly how i feel leaving the jws.. http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/exwcg/.
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Wow - just substitute WTS for WCG and bingo! Interesting to me that they use many of the phrases that JWs use.